【摘要】 汉克·雷泽尔是当代美国的创新实验诗人，曾为阿拉巴马大学名誉教授兼名誉副教务长。他创作了34本诗集和多本散文集。雷泽尔的最新作品探索了诗歌创新与灵性的交汇，聚焦诗人持续进行的禅修实践。此访谈深入探讨了雷泽尔的诗学理念，特别是中国禅宗、道家思想，如空、虚、寂等与其诗歌创作之间的关系，重点关注了雷泽尔诗歌创作中的一个特定阶段——形状写作，即雷泽尔发明的一种即兴诗歌写作实践（一种抽象形状的无草稿诗歌）。雷泽尔的形状写作与禅宗思想、汉字、书法和即兴爵士乐等有着重要的关系。他的作品探讨了存在的本质、意识、自然、语言中的复杂生活，以及通过冥想实践而产生的存在。更多还原

【Abstract】 Hank Lazer is a well-known American innovative and experimental poet and Professor Emeritus and Associate Provost Emeritus for the University of Alabama. The author of 35 books of poetry and several collections of essays, his most recent books of poetry explore the intersection of poetic innovation and spirituality, with attention to his ongoing Zen meditation practice. This interview explores in depth Lazer’s poetry and poetics, especially the relationship between Chinese Zen-Taoism thoughts, such as emptiness, nothingness, and silence, etc., and his poetics and poetry creation, focusing on a particular phase of Lazer’s poetry – shape-writing – an improvisatory practice invented by Lazer(poems written without drafts in abstract shapes). Lazer’s shape-writing has an important relationship to Zen-Taoism, Chinese characters, calligraphy, and improvisatory jazz among others. His writing explores the nature of being, consciousness, nature, the complex life in language, and the presence that occurs through the practice of meditation.更多还原