【摘要】 从和作的机构缘起以及建筑师与结构师的合作方式谈起，基于实践的视角切入柳亦春建筑师与张准结构师关于结构的思考。围绕龙美术馆、台州当代美术馆、金山岭上院与花草亭的讨论，从结构的物质性触及结构与“意义”“抽象”等概念层面的可能性，并最终对结构的社会性进行回应。尽管两次采访以“背靠背”的方式进行，但结构作为多种技术的、文化的、社会的因素之“巧合”，不约而同地构成了两位采访对象的共同认识基础。更多还原

【Abstract】 The interview begins with the institutional origins of AND Office and the way architects and structural engineers work together and then moves on to the reflections of architect Liu Yichun and structural engineer Zhang Zhun on structure from a practical point of view. The discussions around the Long Museum, Taizhou Museum of Contemporary Art, Golden Ridge Upper Cloister, and Blossom Pavilion touch on the materiality of structure, the conceptual possibilities of structure in terms of meaning and abstraction, and ultimately respond to the social potential of structure. Although the two interviews were conducted in a "back-toback" manner, the coincidence of structure based on a variety of technical, cultural, and social factors coincidentally constituted the common ground of the two interviewees.更多还原